Friday, December 08, 2006

New Blogger template or old classic template?

When bloggers upgrade their Blogger classic account to the new Blogger beta account, there is often confusion, with bloggers pleading such things like "I don't get Layout" etc. This post is to try to pinpoint the problem, which is, whether the blogger has upgraded his classic template to a beta template or not. Look at the screenshot below (click to enlarge):
Blogger Beta: using a classic template or a beta template
In the screenshot, you will see 2 blogs, one with the classic template and one with the beta template. In the first case, on the extreme right, you will see "Layout" (circled in red) and in the second case, you will see "Template" (also circled in red). The first case is a beta blog while the second is still using a classic template. In order to upgrade to a beta template, click on "Template" then click on the "Customize design" subtab, then chose a new beta template.

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47 comments:

  1. Anonymous12/09/2006

    When will I get the option to migrate my current classic blogger to the new beta? Will I have to alter my html? Or will it do it automatically? What about my archives? Will they be intact? Your blog has some awesome resources btw. Thanks!

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  2. You can only opt to migrate when you receive an invitation now. Regarding time frame, Blogger Employee has set a time frame of weeks. That was weeks ago, so it should be anytime now, but really no one knows for sure. In the meantime, you can set up test beta blog at beta.blogger.com to get used to it.

    Peter
    Blogger Tips and Tricks

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  3. Anonymous12/09/2006

    Also an invitation will only show up if you do not have any team members on you blog or you are a team member on another blog. You must sever those connections before you will get the invitation on your dashboard. I received mine instantaneously after I severed those ties. Also you can migrate to the new blog and revert to the "classic" template you currently are using.

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  4. Thanks for your quick reply peter! :)

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  5. I have more than 1 Blogger account, one for my environmental blogs and one for blogs related to Bloger. For this Blogger account, I am also a team member or the other Blogger account, and despite that, just today, when I logged in, I saw an invitation to migrate. Tempted to migrate and then keep my classic template and see what is the difference but am a bit hesitant because this blog is important to me and I don't want any problems I read about in the Blogger Help group.

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  6. Modifying the CSS in the new beta is tricky because I'm unfamiliar with it. I want to be able to have my Adsense ads after each post, but I can't figure it out. You know what they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm going to keep my blog on the classic layout until I am forced to migrate.

    Although I do like the WYSIWYG of the new beta.

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  7. Hi gdpg,

    It is interesting that your first comment seem to indicate you just can't wait to migrate, and now you want to stick to the classic template.

    Looks like you now share the same sentiments as me. I have beta blogs as well and there are still problems w.r.t. Adsense.

    BTW those putting Adsense ads will probably like to stick to the classic template because old hacks like what you mention don't work, plus it is still a problem getting a working searchbar into a beta blog. It was solved temporarily (see post Putting a working Google searchbar in a Blogger Beta blog, but recently discovered that no longer work. Adsense have been informed, and the support staff has replied that they have escalated your issue to a
    specialist.

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  8. Anonymous12/27/2006

    Hello Peter,

    Have any ideas on what to do if "Customize design" isn't an option on the Template tab? I am on the beta (now no longer in beta), but I can't switch to the beta template.

    Check out the screen shot:
    http://www.mozealous.com/images/betatemplate.png

    Any help would be appreciated.

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  9. Anonymous12/27/2006

    Hey Peter,

    I think I figured it out. The reason I can't upgrade is I modified my template. Thanks for the blog.

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  10. Anonymous1/04/2007

    Hey Peter,
    I need to know whether switching to beta template is mandatory or is it optional because my blog has lot of modifications to HTML and making it all over again in Beta template is difficult task. Please help.

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  11. Hi Nirmal,

    I really don't know, and the only people who know are Blogger Employee at Google Blogger Help group and the people at Blogger. But Blogger Employee has said that it should be in a matter of weeks, and it is more than weeks now and we have not heard anything.

    Maybe they changed their mind. I tested migration for one of my classic account and the message came back that the account couldn't be migrated because one or more of blogs cannot be migrated. Maybe because of such happening they changed their mind about the mandatory migration.

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  12. Anonymous1/04/2007

    Thanks for the quick reply...

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  13. Hi there, great bunch of resources on here, of particular interest to me is the migration to the new templates.

    I only signed up to blogger.com a few days ago, assuming that I was signing up to the new non-beta blogger, however, I still have the old classic templates not the new ones, I assumed (lot of assumptions!) that as new member of the non-beta system I would be straight onto the new templates - is this assumption incorrect then?

    If it makes any difference I am using the custom domain option and am hosting my blig on my own domain.

    http://www.allanyoung.info/blogger.html

    Any advice appreciated.

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  14. If you sign up for Blogger only a few days ago, you would have signed up for a New Blogger account. To confirm, the navbar should look like the screenshot in this post Old classic Blogger or New (formerly beta) account. Your template will likely be the New Blogger template, so I am suprised that you said your template is still the old classic template. Check the post (screenshot) again to see if your template is classic template or New Blogger template.

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  15. Thanks for the reply Peter, it would appear that I am indeed still on the old system. Guess I need to wait now, just seemed a little odd that seeing as they are out of Beta that new accounts are not automatically on to the new system :-S

    Thanks again.

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  16. The saga continues, I registered on blogger.com with my Google account when I set it up, now when I try to "switch" blogger does nto recognise my gmail username and password, rather its asking or my blogger username and password (hope that makes sense!)

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  17. We have been asked to refer login issues to Login Issues. Hope that helps.

    Peter (Blog*Star 2006)
    Enviroman Says

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  18. Hi Peter,

    Finally took the plunge and switched to New Blogger, only to find that my entire archives had disappeared. Any ideas on how I could get them back? Thanks!

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  19. Peter, I've been able to resolve the issue I asked you earlier. Sorry to take up your time. Thank you.

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  20. Disappeared from the website or disappeared from the Dashboard?

    Peter a.k.a. enviroman
    Enviroman Says

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  21. Hi Peter,

    I want to upgrade from my classic Minima template to a new blogger template so I can add a labels widget to my sidebar. But, looking at my my template tab, I find NO 'customize design' subtab. The three subtabs available are 'Edit HTML', 'Pick New' and 'AdSense'.

    How do you recommend I proceed?

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  22. Are you using FTP?

    Peter a.k.a. enviroman
    Enviroman Says

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  23. You got it, Peter. I am using FTP. I recently changed my URL and now Blog Search can't find any of my back posts - but that's a separate issue which I may ask you to address after I sort out the widget issue.

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  24. New Blogger bloggers using own domain and hosting on external server using FTP to publsh their post can only use the old classic template. The New Blogger (formerly beta) templates are not available for them, thus they cannot use features like Layout, drag and drop, etc.

    Peter a.k.a. enviroman
    Enviroman Says

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  25. Well, well, well. That's not very friendly, is it?

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  26. I am fairly sure that if their system allows it, they will open the ability to use New Blogger templates to those using FTP. Maybe they are still trying to work things out.

    Peter a.k.a. enviroman
    Enviroman Says

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  27. Hey, Pete! I am now in the new blogger in beta. But spacing gives me trouble. How do I get the spacing that you have in your blog? My is Minima but it gives very little spacing between lines and after a block quote it switches to no space at all between lines. It is driving me crazy. I always appreciate your thoughts and help. Thanks,
    www.rosaile.blogspot.com

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  28. Hi Rosa,

    Either you have found a way around your problem or we are looking for different things. I visited your blog, and everything seems OK. If there really is a problem, perhaps you can take a screenshot and upload it to your blog or a test blog and send the URL to me so I can see what is the problem you are referring to.

    This post Irfanview for your blogging task. It may or may not have the info you need but if so, maybe I will make a new post to include Windows Paint.


    Peter (Blog*Star 2006 and 2007)
    Dummies Guide to Google Blogger
    "online book" in progress

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  29. Hi Peter,

    I am still using the classic template.
    My archive links stopped publishing in 2007. All the archive links from 2002 upto December 2006 are fine though. The current posts are being saved in the archives folder correctly.

    I have tried replacing the javascript version of the archives links with the old traditional code below (Brackets switched to show code)

    (BloggerArchives)
    (a href='$BlogArchiveURL$')($BlogArchiveName$)(/a)(br /)

    I saved and republished everything but nothing at all shows up in my sidebar so I switched back to javascript. Do you see any solution to this frustrating bug?

    Url: http://www.live4ever.us/newsroom.html
    Archives:
    http://wwww.live4ever.us/archives

    thanks so much for your time

    Paul

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  30. Hi Webmaster L4E,

    I am afraid the old Blogger tags like

    <$BlogSiteFeedUrl$&gy;

    and the New Blogger tags like

    <b:includable id='main' var='thiswidget'>

    are incompatible.

    BTW if you want to display HTML tags in posts and comments, refer to How to display special HTML tags.

    Peter (Blog*Star)
    How you can help Blogger Tips and Tricks
    (no one should feel obligated. Everthing completely voluntary. However, by doing so, you may also help your visitors find helpful information and help. You may even pick up various ways of linking sites there too)

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  31. Peter can I still get a betablog? i want one and when i went to the template section, i do not see any beta templates.

    thanks!

    erikka smadaakkire at yahoo dot com

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  32. Hi Erikka,

    Sorry about the confusion. Blogger Beta is no longer beta now. It is New Blogger or just plain Blogger. Blogger Beta = New Blogger = Blogger

    The distinctions should be between old classic template and New Blogger template (or just Blogger template or xml template). This post was done a long time ago. I will have to edit the post to end the confusion.

    Peter (Blog*Star)
    What a grateful blogger did for me
    (no one should feel obligated. Everthing completely voluntary. However, by doing so, you may also help your visitors find helpful information and help. You may even pick up various ways of linking sites there too)

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  33. Hi Peter. Thanks for clarifying. My friend also using Blogger has the ability to post pictures of books in her side bars and I seem unable to figure out how to do this. She said she has beta and that's how. Can you help here?

    Thanks!

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  34. Hi Erika,

    Refer to

    How to put clickable picture in New Blogger sidebar
    (it says "clickable, but I remember putting instructions for non-clickable pictures if that is what you want).

    Making an Amazon bookcover link to Amazon site
    (it says Amazon, but it can apply to any book cover).

    Peter (Blog*Star)
    The easiest way to earn something for your blogging efforts

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  35. Hi Peter,
    few days back i opened this blog. i tried to make my two column blog structure into three colum but later on i found, the blog structure has changed. there is no side bar. all the information including labels, feed, archive which used to be in the right side are coming in the bottom of the page. i cant even see that upgrade your blog option. while i click template on dashboard, i get 4 option of edit html, pick new, ad sense and customize design. but thats not helping my cause.plz suggest me waht to do?
    thanking you in advance.

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  36. Hi Talisman,

    If you see Customize Design, it means you are using old classic template. Refer to this post again and confirm if that is true

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  37. Hey Peter,
    thnk u so much for replying. luckily i solved the problem after some searching.
    glad u replied. thnx again..:)

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  38. Thanks so much! Problem solved! Lol.

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  39. Hello, I've been trying to change the password to ftp my blogger files but it keeps reverting back to the old password. Would you know how to fix this? Thank you

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  40. HI, I've been trying to change my ftp password but it keeps reverting back to the old one. Would you know how to fix this please?

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  41. Try posting your problem to Blogger Help Forum. Do feedback us if you find a solution.

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  42. Hi,
    I'm having a lot of problems with this new blogger. So I was wondering if it is possible to switch back to the old one where I created my blog. It's because the templates are all different in the new one and I can't change certain things like Post Title font sizes without messing the entire blog up...

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  43. When you want to introduce a new template for your blog take your time to understand it well.i wish you all the best as you blog

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  44. How can I change the new template back to classic template? One of my blogs is classic the other is the new one and I want them both set to classic

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  45. How do i convert the the new blog design back to the classic blog template? I have two blogs, one is classic and the other is the newer template. I want them both to be classic.

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  46. There is no turning back as Blogger has stopped support for the old classic template

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