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Friday, March 19, 2010

Create sub-domain with custom domain


If you are just interested to know how to create sub-domain, skip directly to How to create sub-domain

A blogger's complaint that the static page he created has unwanted expandable post summary (if I understand him correctly is the push I needed to finally write this post on sub-domain. He suspect it may have something to do with the fact that he is using a template with built-in expandable post summary (again if I understand him correctly. He may be right but it looks that the static page one created via Blogger uses the same template.

Anyway I figure his solution might be to abandon blogspot and upgrade to custom domain and create a sub-domain instead as the sub-domain can use any template which may or may not be the same as the original. It is practically a separate independent website. Look at the one I created recently faq.bloggertipsandtricks.com/ (still under construction). If you go to BT&T FAQ which is the title of that sub-domain, you may see me using the same template, but the blog title, sidebars, etc are different from Blogger Tips and Tricks.

A bit more rambling. While for a long time, Blogger.com was negatively compared with Wordpress, since it abandoned the old classic template and forced everyone to upgrade to the new Blogger xml templates, Blogger has improved by leaps and bounds. Not only that, now coupled with Google Apps, you have a very easy "content management system" to create many things without getting too technical. In fact, I know that Google (here in Malaysia anyway) is working with a students from a University to help SME (Small and Medium Enterprise) using Blogger and Google Apps to create >websites for businesses.


How to create sub-domain



First you must upgrade to custom domain and I would suggest you not register directly your domain using other domain registra but do it via Blogger.com and Google Apps and you will find lots of what you need to do is automated for you by Blogger.com. No need to struggle with CNames, etc. etc.

Once you have a custom domain, make sure you create an administrator account (email). Instructions should be emailed to you. Once you have created that administrator account, either log into that email or log into https://www.google.com/a/cpanel/yourdomain.com, making sure to replace yourdomain with the actual URL of your blog. If you ever forgot your admin password, refer to Google Apps "forgot password". (I somehow prefer to sign into my admin email, then click "Manage this domain" to get into the CPanel).

In Google Apps Control Panel, click the Domain Settings tab (or click Domain names):

Google Apps Control Panel highlighting Domain Settings

and in the following window, click Domain Names tab:

Google Apps Domain Setting tab highlighted

In the window after clicking the Domain Settings tab, the name of your domain registra will be shown. Below that, there will be an Advanced DNS Settings link. Click it

Domain Settings showing domain registra

Click "Advanced DNS Settings" and the next screen will give you the password and username of your domain registra which will likely be Godaddy or eNom:

username and password for Advanced DNS Settings

Click "Sign into DNS Console" and in the next window will be the login page of your domain registra's:


or
eNome Domain Management
eNom Domain Management sign in



Copy-paste the username and password, click "Secure login" and presto, you are signed into the Advanced DNS Settings of your respective domain registra:

GoDaddy



Click the particular domain to which you want to add a sub-domain, and in the next window:



Click "Total DNS Control" and in the next window, under "CNames Aliases", click "Add New CName record"



then type in the sub-domain (eg. faq.yourdomain.com), and for Points to Host Name: enter ghs.google.com, click OK and you are done. Congrats, you have created a sub-domain for your blog.

eNom

For eNom, in the HOST RECORDS section, click EDIT at the bottom right of the section:

eNom Host Records

and the section instantly turned editable where you can edit the Host Names, their Addresses and Host Types (A record or C Name). In your case, you want to create a new sub-domain, so click ADD NEW and a new row open at the bottom for you to type in a new host name, address and record type:

eNom add new how record

Thus for Host Name, type in the name of your sub-domain. For example, if I want to create forum.bloggertipsandtricks.com, I will type just "forum". For the address, type or copy-paste ghs.google.com and for Record Type, choose CName (Alias).

When done, just click SAVE and you are done.

44 comments:

Modern Country said...

Hi Peter,
I have tested your tips about how to prevent my readers not to enlarge my pictures when they click on them in my blog. Sadly It doesn`t worked out how I hoped for. You gave me this link to test out:

"clicking on image does not enlarge image: Why and how"

I did uploaded my pictures in compose mode, and dragged them in wanted position. Still when I published my latest entry, the images still has the pssibility/option to be enlarged by my visitors. I want my Published images to be "frozen". Not clickable. Do you understand what I try to do?? I will send you a link to one favourite blog I often visits. Click on her pictures, and you will se that they do not change size.

http://hannasform.blogspot.com/


Again I would be so thankful if you could help me with my problem!! Do yuu have another tips I could use?? Please leave me a note, if wanted in my blog, if you have the time to solve my problem.

Kind regards,
Aina

Modern Country

Peter @ Enviroman said...

Blogger.com keeps changing. Check the script in the HTML mode and if you are not familiar with HTML hyperlink or the <img> tags, do some reading up then you probably may be edit the image script to prevent enlarging (I need to check myself). Reading materials:
How to make clickable links
Make clickable picture/image/photo
adding images to your posts

so if there is a <a href=".....> plus its closing tag </a> in the script, delete them. Do a favor for me, do some tests and let me know if they work (am quite confident they will)

Aneesh said...

Hello Peter, the static pages get summarised because the script is active on the static pages. The script should be disabled on static pages by wrapping them it in B:IF conditions..

you will find the updated code with proper B:if conditions at this link. You can modify the existing code using appropriate b:ifs by reffering to that code. Also see Selective display

Peter @ Enviroman said...

That will need testing. Maybe later.

Gabrielle Shone said...

I followed your instructions on creating a sub-domain so that I could use this to create an "about me" static page in Blogger with a different layout to my main post page. Now I have my subdomain what on earth do i do to link it back to my new static page and how do I create the separate layout? Thanks, i appreciate anyone's help in this!

Peter @ Enviroman said...

" link it back to my new static page"

You mean your created 2 "profiles", one, a static page and one a sub-domain? What for?

Anyway, perhaps Making active hyperlinks may answer your question

Chanel7 said...

thanks!
www.chanel7.co.cc
TV website

RØN said...

Mr Peter.,

This really did help me out alot...

thanks for the tips...

Yours Truly,
Ron

Paz. said...

Hey,it was really helpful.
I was jsut wonder if it is possible to have something like this :
www.mydomain.com/subdomain ?

instead of subdomain.mydomain.com ?

Peter @ Enviroman said...

mydomain.com/subdomain is not a subdomain and Blogger has not given us the ability to make such an URL

Admin said...

does this allow to have older posts, newer posts link and home link to sub-domains?????
i want to create different different pages for images and videos and articels on my blog and I wish that on one page there sholuld not be more than 10 posts......

Peter @ Enviroman said...

You can treat a sub-domain as a separate blog with its own different template if you wish and with newer post/older posts links etc.

Admin said...

will you please tell me in person how to do this??
cause i didnt find the options you said...
malhaar.kale@gmail.com

Peter @ Enviroman said...

Can you access cPanel?

Harvey44 said...

Peter ...

I'm hosting a nabble (www.nabble.com/) embeddable forum in a widget on one of my static pages.

It's amazingly easy to do.

But it's a "frame." Just a window into the nabble web server.

I'm assuming that by doing it this was I am getting no SEO value out of what has the potential to be a ton of on topic, keyword rich content.

According to Nabble I can host my forum on a custom domain.

The only real instructions are:

"you will have to change its DNS configuration and make it resolve to the Nabble server where your forum is located."

Two questions - would hosting my forum on my own domain be better for my sites SEO? My gut feeling is yes but would like to hear your input.

Second question .... should I (can I?) do it on a static page? Or should it be a subdomain? If both are possible what are the pros and cons of each?

Peter ... thanks for everything you do.

Harv

Peter @ Enviroman said...

See How to embed webpage into an iFrame: "Some important notes: The content of an iFrame will not be spidered by search engines which may be a negative point if that is what you want, but to me it is a plus point because it will prevent duplicate content which is not liked by search engines and which may draw a penalty."

"would hosting my forum on my own domain be better for my sites SEO? My gut feeling is yes": wise men think alike.

"a static page? Or should it be a subdomain?"

Static page will be better for your main blog but I don't see how it is possible to reset its DNS config to Nabble server.

Since it is a forum and new content is being added continuously, might as well set it up as a sub-domain of your blog since nabble.com allows that.

BTW it would be good to get feedback on your progress with your forum.

Harvey44 said...

Peter,

I haven't actually allowed the search engine spiders in yet, or linked to the forum from my blog so noone is using it yet. I've customized the colors to match my blog and it's basically ready to go. But I want to get the domain issues worked out.

If I use a subdomain - will probably use www.forum.nyskiblog.com - will I have duplicate content issues?

I don't exactly understand. Does changing the DNS mean that there is no duplicate nabble domain for the forum?

What would you do?

Harvey44 said...

Peter - I forgot one question.

I think you said the subdomain has it's own template. I'd want the page to match.

Do I have to start another blog with a separate login or can it all be tied together?

Peter @ Enviroman said...

If I understand what you originally told me, you said nabble.com allow you to host it in your own domain and not with an iFrame. If so I can't see where would the duplicate content come in.

However why don't you clarify with nabble.com?

Harvey44 said...

Peter ... I did do it a few days ago. Still waiting on response. (Nobody can match your "customer service!")

Can I assume that I'd put the new subdomain in the Alias box and the nabble address in the Host name box?

Do I include the www in www.forum.nyskiblog.com?

Peter @ Enviroman said...

"Do I include the www in www.forum.nyskiblog.com?"

Absolutely not.

"you will have to change its DNS configuration and make it resolve to the Nabble server where your forum is located."

The above made me think it is feasible but honestly for me it is mainly theoretical, no practical experience.

Perhaps I need to try to setup a forum as a subdomain myself. Since as far as nabble.com is concerned, you are more familiar. Why don't you tell me where you read the above statement and what DNS config we need to do to point the subdomain to nabble's server

Harvey44 said...

Peter that would be awesome. You can set up a nabble forum in two minutes. Actually YOU could probably do it in 30 seconds. ;)

Here's where the snippet came from:

http://n3.nabble.com/help/Answer.jtp?id=51

here is nabble help:

http://n3.nabble.com/help/Index.jtp

and here is the nabble support forum:

http://nabble-support.1.n2.nabble.com/


I'm dying to know if the "PERMALINKS" feature will then yield custom domain links vs nabble links after we are done. If so then I think I can be assured that the SEO stuff will work out.

Peter @ Enviroman said...

Harvey, can you email me via my contact form.

Telika Ramu said...

i brought domain stockmarket educations.com

please guide me

how to connect add to my blog

Peter @ Enviroman said...

The first thing you need is access to the CPanel. From which domain registra did you purchase your domain?

Siromade said...

Hi Peter,

Thanks for this article, it really help me how to create but I'm not sure if it's successful coz I'm on enom customer service email.

I've sent you email regarding what I did on how to create sub domain, I hope you can help me complete the creation.

Thanks

Siromade said...

I forgot how am i going to edit my dns settings?

Peter @ Enviroman said...

I have edited this post to include screen shots of eNom Domain Management settings

Peter @ Enviroman said...

Siromade, have the recent addition of eNom screen shots helped you to edit the DNS settings?

Siromade said...

Thanks for editing the article, I've replied to your email add.thanks

Siromade said...

Hi Peter,

This is supposed to be my email but my outlook has error, I just copy paste here

Thanks for editing the article, I’m just starting to change what I record last night and follow the steps on enom. Anyway I’m from Philippines.

I have another question on subdomain that I create, It was on blogspot the original URL is daygazers.blogspot.com then I edit on advance settings as daygazers.siromade08.com…is this right step that I do? Because when I change to that I can't open it says error can't be displayed page almost 4 days now. Same as the other subdomain I create kalingawankoikaw.blogspot.com then edit settings kalingawankoikaw.siromade08.com

Peter @ Enviroman said...

If I understand your problem correctly, if it is my blog, I would republish kalingawankoikaw.siromade08.com back to kalingawankoikaw.blogspot.com and then back to kalingawankoikaw.siromade08.com and see if that helps. Perhaps it is also because you have to wait for the changes to propagate.

Siromade said...

Hey Peter,

After I edit and record the subdomain name, then try to open it still error page, but I thought of logging out the blogger and sign back again and try to open and its successfully open, both of them.

Thanks so much, it means a lot a lot to me, it's been few days I'm stressing about this, lucky i found you on blogger help.


Thanks for your help to everyone.

Godbless you..

Peter @ Enviroman said...

So Siromade I assume your problem is solved. However, will appreciate which instruction helped solved your problem. Will appreciate feedback

Siromade said...

Yea I think it ok now, it should be on creating and recording properly the subdomain.

But one thing when I'm going to add subdomain on blog list, it says URL is not valid like adding daygazers.siromade08.com

Why you think it's like that?

Peter @ Enviroman said...

"add subdomain on blog list,"

Please explain what you mean by the above.

Siromade said...

I mean add on bloglist to link the site on my custom domain and other subdomain to know if it updates like blogroll it says inavalid URL.

If you can try add my link pls if it add properly

http://daygazers.siromade08.com

Peter @ Enviroman said...

Not sure what your problem is. See I tested your sub-domain link at testing sub-domain link for commentator and you see clicking on those links will lead to your sub-domain.

Siromade said...

They perfectly both opened and I've added them too on my blogroll. Myabe it's a glitch only.

Thanks so much again.

michaelvk said...

I followed your instructions on creating a sub-domain so that I could use this to create an "about me" static page in Blogger with a different layout to my main post page. Now I have my subdomain what on earth do i do to link it back to my new static page and how do I create the separate layout? Thanks, i appreciate anyone's help in this!.
cheers,
http://www.zco.com/

Peter @ Enviroman said...

Ok you have created a sub-domain. You can first create a blogspot.com blog with any URL, then go to SEttings > PUBLISHING > Custom Domain > Advanced and then put in your new sub-domain URL

blogguy said...

It work but no need to do anything on the host and your picture are old, now Godaddy is already change the manage page.

Thank you so much.

Peramburkumar said...

The problem I am facing here is I already set up the sub-domain as per your article but the thing I am not able to see new sub-domain in the blogger dashboard. I am not getting any e-mail from blogger or Google. I implemented full article as per your guidance. The real problem is where I find my new sub-domain in blogger dashboard.

Peter @ Enviroman said...

Creating a sub-domain via the Cpanel does not automatically create something online, it only gives you the URL. You will have to separately create a blogspot blog and then use the ADVANCED mode of the Blogger custom domain to redirect that blogspot blog to the sub-ldomain you created